planned parenthood

lila: one of the things that you had sharedin a previous interview, marianne, was you spent some time working in the poc room. can you share more about your experience inthat room and what that room is? marianne: poc stands for products of conception. in that room, the doctor, when he got throughwith the abortion procedure, he would walk in there with the dirty instruments in onehand that he had used for the procedure and in his arm he had a big jar about this talland he had it tucked in his arm like this. and he would come in there and he would laydown the dirty instruments at the sink, and he would take the jar that had the productsof conception, as they called it, he would

pour it into a giant, um, sifter. kind of like what you would use like for flour. he would pour that out, he would sift throughit with his hands, checking for the parts to make sure they were all there. lila: and you would be standing there watchinghim doing this? marianne: yes. sometimes i just couldn't take it. and i would run to the restroom or run out in the hallway maybe and get somesupplies or something just to step out of

there for a little while he was sifting throughthat. there was one doctor, that would sit there and he would sometimes talkto this saying, i'll never forget him saying, “now where's your little arm? i didn't see your—i’m missing this arm,”and he would sift through it trying to find the pieces, andthen he’d say—i remember him saying, “oh there you are! now where's the head and where's this?” there was another doctor that also visitedand he specifically asked for, like,

a luminary type light and they bought it forhim and he would actually take the pieces of tissue put them on this light andput it back together. lila: put the body parts back together? lila: and you could see arms, legs, you couldsee— and he really seemed to kind of get into it. he’s—i'll never forget the first day hewas there and he goes, “look at this! this is so cool you can see this and this!” and i'm just like, “that's okay, i’llpass. lila: and what would he say?

you can see this and this, would he— marianne:—he would name the parts, yes. lila: so he would say an arm, a leg?

marianne: yes, “look you could even seelittle tiny little blood vessels in there.” lila: so he could identify their actual— lila: — discernable parts that he wouldbe putting together. at thirteen weeks six days you can, yes.